After listening to the first podcast i decided to look at how many planes are airborne right now and how many are American. There were over 8,000 planes airborne right now of which about 50% or half (about 4,000) are American. No other country came anywhere close to that number of planes as far as I could tell - I think the next largest number was less than 400 from countries like China, India, Australia, or Japan. It surprised me but makes sense given the number of potential flight options available for each popular route every day with multiple airlines. US is contributing the largest proportion of sky pollution.
It's astounding isn't it?! You can't unsee that. It's surprising we can see the sky at all…which is testament to the power of Nature - DESPITE us. The arrogance of geoengineering is deplorable.
Jim, thanks for the troposphere rogue geoengineering lesson. I’ve been watching our blue skies in the Columbia Gorge get whited out. I’ve had some basic understanding of the nature of these events. Yeah and it fucking pisses me off too.
Glad I listened to your interview! Monica Perez did a great conversational interview.
Well said Jenni, I totally agree. As with most things in life, it's mostly on us to decrease demand - to some degree at least, like refusing to consume the useless junk that feeds the whole machine. Travel local & find places in your own area that are just as awesome as some faraway land.
Also, like many, I started out with DW but the fearmongering was definitely a red flag for me too. No need for the hype - Just the facts, Sir.
I also like Monica's mind because of her probes & endless curiosity to get to the roots.
I'm really trying to understand. Jim seemed to mock people who brought up those lines. Listening to all this conversation is like going to a dinner party and everyone's telling yarns and going off on tangents. Nothing is straightforward. What is it exactly that people are complaining about that Jim finds so annoying? And isn't he saying the same thing in the end? (confused)
Hi Pat - I’m sorry I haven’t been in Substack for ages.
I hear you - it can be tedious to sort out what’s what - especially with a lot of ‘mud gudgeons’ out there stirring up the sludge.
What it comes down to is this: Technically contrails & chemtrails are one & the same. The problem is the fuel particles which come out of every flight, every day. So there are pollutants up there non-stop.
Depending on the altitude & temperatures of the flight path - sometimes planes fly through conditions that cause the ‘trails’ to be visible. And some turn into Cirrus cloud which can develop further or dissipate.
The frustrations, I believe, come from the irrational ones who scream “They™️ are spraying us like bugs!” & won’t be quiet long enough to listen & educate themselves about what we should ACTUALLY be concerned about & what, perhaps, we CAN change or at least, put our energy & focus.
Please take the time to go to Jim’s site or YT channel & familiarise yourself - I am still doing that myself - because we won’t be taken seriously if we don’t know what we are talking about.
Funny too…a lot of people who are upset about the trails don’t think twice about buying themselves a plane ticket.
Thank you so much for responding. Big topic. That does help me understand better. So when it comes to commercial airplane and trails, it's best to focus on controlling the pollution as a solution and stay away from controversial subjects is what I'm hearing. I get that. It's probably a good strategy if it ends up getting to the same result.
It's that intentional aspect of it that has people worried I venture. I got from this presentation that commercial airplanes are being used for geoengineering purposes (or at least the blocking out the sun part of it with sulfur and whatnot), so did I understand it right that this does include deliberately making cloud cover or haze? That would be a concern, but not just for the lost sunlight, which is bad enough for food production and mental and physical health. There's also the effect on soil and vegetation, etc. and our lungs even.
If commercial jet fuel is being used for geoengineering (laced with worse chemicals or metals than normal), then this could also affect our vast forests which now burn hotter and longer with all the dead wood that is blamed on pine beetles and, of course, climate change.
The question becomes, is it deliberate? How are these geoengineering symptoms being used to further the political agenda of climate change and 'one health' which promises massive social and economic changes like stakeholder communism, mass surveillance and controls? We now know the cvd crisis was also manufactured to kick off this agenda, and that it harmed millions of people globally and killed between 12 and 17 million as well. Yikes.
I understand that people may be concerned they are seen as bugs to be squashed - that all these aerial activities (large and small-scale, see below) might be intended to deliberately harm them. Are they wrong? Or is what you and Jim saying is that they need to hush up about all these concerns and just focus on the pollution aspect as the best hope for change?
P.S. some small-scale commercial spraying going on in BC:
In my area of British Columbia, those involved do admit to actually spraying for bugs (tent caterpillars) and also to widespread (provincial) spraying for defoliation to benefit industry to kill off vegetation that many people feel are very important, such as used for medicines by indigenous peoples. Most egregiously, they are targeting elderberry, which is an effective treatment for colds and flu (heaven forbid, right?)
Since they've been spraying, we've noticed die off of local plants and trees that are normally very robust, like laurel and even English ivy, which in this rain forest dominates. The slugs are all gone. Bees aren't doing well, and the birds have diminished. I wish I could trust it is all unintentional...
After listening to the first podcast i decided to look at how many planes are airborne right now and how many are American. There were over 8,000 planes airborne right now of which about 50% or half (about 4,000) are American. No other country came anywhere close to that number of planes as far as I could tell - I think the next largest number was less than 400 from countries like China, India, Australia, or Japan. It surprised me but makes sense given the number of potential flight options available for each popular route every day with multiple airlines. US is contributing the largest proportion of sky pollution.
It's astounding isn't it?! You can't unsee that. It's surprising we can see the sky at all…which is testament to the power of Nature - DESPITE us. The arrogance of geoengineering is deplorable.
All depends on where you live what they do!
Certain areas are used to create the pieces for there storms!
Look at Louisiana there air quality is beyond dangerous it’s a crime!
The gulf, Mississippi. I live on Long Island its new name is Seattle east!
Why, always cloudy always damp and cold!
We live in the month of March, 12 months a year, in a four season area,I am down to March!
This is all manipulation along with the pollution!
No more fossil fuel but polluting airplanes are fine! Along with every nut job with an airplane!
Pushing blocking the sun!
Outlaw gas stoves put push pedophilia!
They built a solar panel farm by me!
This is no joke! Sun is never out! They ain’t collecting shit!
Should have put up a chicken farm!
I do not care what technology they say they’re made out of!
No sun no energy! But no sun helps the depression they are pushing!
Lack of vitamin D, they know this!
They are controlling the narrative!
I personally believe we are all unwillingly participating in a science project!
In more ways than just the weather! They have us living in a psych ward!
All they want to do is over medicate you!
No electric shock just vaccines and frequencies!
Check this out! The I95 corridor which is one of the most populated areas for votes and propaganda in the nation! Check the weather in those states!
Suns very very very really out!
They are pushing depression, I have said it a million times!
Air sucks, water sucks, food is poison, digital world is closing in!
Singularity with the machine, you will comply, must all ready are!
The fight is for your soul and the digital world, “satan” prince of the airwaves!
Praise the digital gods, while Jesus died a criminals death!
Unplug tune out!
Jim, thanks for the troposphere rogue geoengineering lesson. I’ve been watching our blue skies in the Columbia Gorge get whited out. I’ve had some basic understanding of the nature of these events. Yeah and it fucking pisses me off too.
Glad I listened to your interview! Monica Perez did a great conversational interview.
Stella I just posted on this subject
I have only just seen it now.
I would Sub but my plate has already got too many beans unfortunately. Keep fighting. The pen is mightier than the sword. 🙏🏼
I saw planes the other day before one of there cool downs
Criss crossing right by the sun 4 planes making x’s
Funny thing was it all disappeared?
Well said Jenni, I totally agree. As with most things in life, it's mostly on us to decrease demand - to some degree at least, like refusing to consume the useless junk that feeds the whole machine. Travel local & find places in your own area that are just as awesome as some faraway land.
Also, like many, I started out with DW but the fearmongering was definitely a red flag for me too. No need for the hype - Just the facts, Sir.
I also like Monica's mind because of her probes & endless curiosity to get to the roots.
Yes I have one of them. He works in outback Australia & notices the sky & the lines. I’m just opening up that ‘line’ of communication actually.
Because families weren’t already complicated enough 😁
I'm really trying to understand. Jim seemed to mock people who brought up those lines. Listening to all this conversation is like going to a dinner party and everyone's telling yarns and going off on tangents. Nothing is straightforward. What is it exactly that people are complaining about that Jim finds so annoying? And isn't he saying the same thing in the end? (confused)
Hi Pat - I’m sorry I haven’t been in Substack for ages.
I hear you - it can be tedious to sort out what’s what - especially with a lot of ‘mud gudgeons’ out there stirring up the sludge.
What it comes down to is this: Technically contrails & chemtrails are one & the same. The problem is the fuel particles which come out of every flight, every day. So there are pollutants up there non-stop.
Depending on the altitude & temperatures of the flight path - sometimes planes fly through conditions that cause the ‘trails’ to be visible. And some turn into Cirrus cloud which can develop further or dissipate.
The frustrations, I believe, come from the irrational ones who scream “They™️ are spraying us like bugs!” & won’t be quiet long enough to listen & educate themselves about what we should ACTUALLY be concerned about & what, perhaps, we CAN change or at least, put our energy & focus.
Please take the time to go to Jim’s site or YT channel & familiarise yourself - I am still doing that myself - because we won’t be taken seriously if we don’t know what we are talking about.
Funny too…a lot of people who are upset about the trails don’t think twice about buying themselves a plane ticket.
I hope that helps. All the best.
Thank you so much for responding. Big topic. That does help me understand better. So when it comes to commercial airplane and trails, it's best to focus on controlling the pollution as a solution and stay away from controversial subjects is what I'm hearing. I get that. It's probably a good strategy if it ends up getting to the same result.
It's that intentional aspect of it that has people worried I venture. I got from this presentation that commercial airplanes are being used for geoengineering purposes (or at least the blocking out the sun part of it with sulfur and whatnot), so did I understand it right that this does include deliberately making cloud cover or haze? That would be a concern, but not just for the lost sunlight, which is bad enough for food production and mental and physical health. There's also the effect on soil and vegetation, etc. and our lungs even.
If commercial jet fuel is being used for geoengineering (laced with worse chemicals or metals than normal), then this could also affect our vast forests which now burn hotter and longer with all the dead wood that is blamed on pine beetles and, of course, climate change.
The question becomes, is it deliberate? How are these geoengineering symptoms being used to further the political agenda of climate change and 'one health' which promises massive social and economic changes like stakeholder communism, mass surveillance and controls? We now know the cvd crisis was also manufactured to kick off this agenda, and that it harmed millions of people globally and killed between 12 and 17 million as well. Yikes.
I understand that people may be concerned they are seen as bugs to be squashed - that all these aerial activities (large and small-scale, see below) might be intended to deliberately harm them. Are they wrong? Or is what you and Jim saying is that they need to hush up about all these concerns and just focus on the pollution aspect as the best hope for change?
P.S. some small-scale commercial spraying going on in BC:
In my area of British Columbia, those involved do admit to actually spraying for bugs (tent caterpillars) and also to widespread (provincial) spraying for defoliation to benefit industry to kill off vegetation that many people feel are very important, such as used for medicines by indigenous peoples. Most egregiously, they are targeting elderberry, which is an effective treatment for colds and flu (heaven forbid, right?)
Since they've been spraying, we've noticed die off of local plants and trees that are normally very robust, like laurel and even English ivy, which in this rain forest dominates. The slugs are all gone. Bees aren't doing well, and the birds have diminished. I wish I could trust it is all unintentional...